steelman1991
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@Vodder
Check your spam folder - that's where mine landed.
Check your spam folder - that's where mine landed.
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Folks, if you use Vudu, DO NOT unlink your Vudu account from UV, just leave it alone, let the shutdown happen, and whatever UV content is currently available in Vudu will remain available after the UV closure. This is the same for the UV content in the K Store.
That info comes from Kaleidescape and Vudu (but sure it applies to any UV account).
Jim
So then I have to buy to watch on K and then buy again so I can put it on the ipad / surface / kindle for the kids and when they travel and for secondary viewing locations and homes without KI bet K takes this opportunity to rethink its integration with digital rights. I personally think they should no longer allow someone to purchase a movie from Vudu or elsewhere and then go over to K to download. Not healthy for the company. I know folks might disagree... SJ
In fact go the other direction. Make sure your UV account is linked to every playback option it can be linked to.Folks, if you use Vudu, DO NOT unlink your Vudu account from UV, just leave it alone, let the shutdown happen, and whatever UV content is currently available in Vudu will remain available after the UV closure. This is the same for the UV content in the K Store.
That info comes from Kaleidescape and Vudu (but sure it applies to any UV account).
Jim
So then I have to buy to watch on K and then buy again so I can put it on the ipad / surface / kindle for the kids and when they travel and for secondary viewing locations and homes without K
Really
I'm suggesting you would have the K content and the digital rights as a backup and for streaming. Almost the same as when you purchase a physical disk. You purchased a physical disk and you get a digital code - not the other way around. You purchased a full res copy from K (same as disk - but understand it is still digital, but for the K full res version) and they give you a code which works on MA or VUDU. OK, wrong conversation here and not sure how big an issue it is, but the store is the future for K.... SJ
I think there's much higher likelihood and rationale behind K just joining MA vs. K giving out MA codes for purchases in the store.
I see where you're coming from though in that it protects their revenue better to issue codes vs. full membership. You have to buy from them, but you get the MA; however, it prevents cheaper MA purchases from iTunes or VUDU from porting in.
Given that K did UV and thus allowed cheaper purchases from VUDU, they have a precedent for this. Native MA is just the same and is probably far less arduous from a business and legal perspective than setting up a code infrastructure.
I'll also contend that we don't want lower resolution digital rights porting out of K. A UHD purchase should be a UHD right everywhere.
however, it prevents cheaper MA purchases from iTunes or VUDU from porting in.
Given that K did UV and thus allowed cheaper purchases from VUDU, they have a precedent for this.
I'll also contend that we don't want lower resolution digital rights porting out of K. A UHD purchase should be a UHD right everywhere.
I'm sure a requirement of MA is reciprocity.
Also buying and getting an MA code would look a lot like digital double dipping
While I agree with you that K is bitperfect BD and UHD stream has additional compression or different audio or is not 'identical', the studios would put them in the same bucket of UHD/4k.Reciprocity is “exchanging things with others for mutual benefit”. I personally see only one side benefiting.....the cheaper....
Is buying a Bluray or 4K Bluray disk that includes a code double dipping? If K ever joins MA it will be the same. You buy a movie from K rrom a studio that participates in MA you get the code.
But let's take 'frozen' or 'moana' my kids have watched that tens of times on tablets, roku etc in UHD / HD, each time about 2Gb+ of data.I don’t think the solution is one way porting. There are movies which are not in K which I may already have a copy of through MA. Why should a user be forced to double dip. Unless the MA library and K library is the same, there is no easy way to enforce this.
The easiest solution would be to join MA and link both ways, but impose a download cost for movies not purchased through K. Simple solution without any loss to K or inconvenience to users with full flexibility.
A simpler implementation would be download credits. Every movie purchased through K store comes with download credit. Movies owned that are not purchased through K store will require purchase of download credits.
In fact if it were up to me, I would make the cost of download credits so that I make a tiny bit of profit, like 15%, over the cost of download.
Many times the cost of K store purchase is significantly higher compared to disc or MA purchase. So all of these put together will help K and the users.