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3TB Drives are Here

There is also a temporary 'surcharge' on disk cartridges. Immediately on 3TB cartridges and from Jan 13th on 2TB cartridges which I have assumed dealers will all pass on.

This is due to the Thaliand Floods which is where most disks were / are made ..

Richard
 
Correct!!:)

The 3TB's are available beginning NOW.

Pricing on the 3TB's will be about $100 higher than 2TB once the surcharge ends (see below).

There is a $300 per disk surcharge (as mentioned above) on all 3TB Disks that starts immediately, and a $200 per disk surcharge on 2TB's effective beginning January 13th. These surcharges are temporary, and reflect only the additional cost to K because of the market affects of the floods in Thailand. There is no end date stated. The Cinema One, with the 2.5 disks, is not affected by the surcharge.

You can still get new 3U Servers with 2TB configurations, but only until February 17th, then only 3TB 3U's Servers will be available.

You will also be able to use the "Disk Upgrade Program" should you want to move to larger disks. Basically, you buy all new 3TB disks for your Server and K will ship a refurbed Server (w/2 year warranty) containing the new 3TB's, you then migrate your content on to the new Server and return your old Server w/smaller Disks to K. Check with your dealer for details.


Jim
 
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Jim,

I think the 3TB drives are going to be more than $100 extra. The MSRP on them is $400 more and the flooding surcharge is not added to MSRP because Kaleidescape stated that they didn't want to keep changing the MSRP for their drives and servers.
 
I was expecting the new 3TB drives MRSP to return to the original price that 2TB drives were sold at before the recent price reduction.

Is the new 3TB drive MRSP $1400?
 
I was beginning to think that 3TB drives would not be released and next drive size increase would be 4TB.

I will have to find something else to speculate about now!
 
That would be a roll out of new custom hardware, so I suspect it will be a while. Perhaps when they come out with a 3D player (if they do).
 
What are the actual prices for the 3tb & 2tb drives?

I am not sure what MSRP is these days... It used to be $1249. Then I thought I read here on the forums that K recently reduced the MSRP on the 2tb drives to $999.
 
cinelife said:
Correct!!:)


You can still get new 3U Servers with 2TB configurations, but only until February 17th, then only 3TB 3U's Servers will be available.

You will also be able to use the "Disk Upgrade Program" should you want to move to larger disks. Basically, you buy all new 3TB disks for your Server and K will ship a refurbed Server (w/2 year warranty) containing the new 3TB's, you then migrate your content on to the new Server and return your old Server w/smaller Disks to K. Check with your dealer for details.


Jim
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So I literally waited and waited until I couldn't wait any longer and swapped out my 1U with 1TB for a 1U with 2TB in late November and the server just arrived and was migrated on December 29th...trying to maximize disk space without buying a new server....I am guessing that I am out of luck in being able to "return" this 1U with the 2TB's and get one with the 3TB's instead (i.e. had I known I would have waited a month and gotten the 3TB disks - surcharge or not).
 
Mars said:
I am guessing that I am out of luck in being able to "return" this 1U with the 2TB's and get one with the 3TB's instead (i.e. had I known I would have waited a month and gotten the 3TB disks - surcharge or not).
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Well, worst case, in two-weeks you will have some near-pristine drives with 21+ months warranty available to sell at $200 below cost. :)
 
bedbuged said:
What are the actual prices for the 3tb & 2tb drives?

I am not sure what MSRP is these days... It used to be $1249. Then I thought I read here on the forums that K recently reduced the MSRP on the 2tb drives to $999.
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Fist, Mike is correct, the MSRP of 3TB is $1,395, exclusive of the $300 surcharge, so currently 3TB disks are $1,695. (Surcharge took affect on Jan. 3rd.)

2TB disks are still $995, exclusive of $200 surcharge which takes affect Jan. 13th on 2TB disks.

NOTE: These surcharges have no dealer margin, dealers pay the exact same surcharge to K.


Jim
 
cinelife said:
Fist, Mike is correct, the MSRP of 3TB is $1,395, exclusive of the $300 surcharge, so currently 3TB disks are $1,695. (Surcharge took affect on Jan. 3rd.)

2TB disks are still $995, exclusive of $200 surcharge which takes affect Jan. 13th on 2TB disks.

NOTE: These surcharges have no dealer margin, dealers pay the exact same surcharge to K.


Jim
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Ok - that makes me feel better - so it would have been $2800 more for the Four 3TB drives vs only $1200. I assumed the 3TB were going to come in at the $995 price plus $300 surcharge (instead of the $1395+$300) and the 2TB's base price was being dropped (since I recall in the past that new drives are priced at the old drive price and the "old" drives get a price drop.)

What is the new MSRP on a 1U loaded with 3TB drives? - since the old 1U was $9,995 I am guessing the new 1U with 3TB will come in at $11,595 MSRP +$1200 surcharge to get it up to about $12,800?
 
MSRP on a KSERVER 1500-0225 with 4x3TB drives is indeed $11,595 + $1200 surcharge for a total of $12,795.

Price is 28% more for 50% more capacity so it is still a price reduction on a cost per title basis. When the surcharge kicks in on the 2TB drives, it will be an even better cost/title deal relative to the 2TB drives.
 
Mars said:
Ok - that makes me feel better - so it would have been $2800 more for the Four 3TB drives vs only $1200. I assumed the 3TB were going to come in at the $995 price plus $300 surcharge (instead of the $1395+$300) and the 2TB's base price was being dropped (since I recall in the past that new drives are priced at the old drive price and the "old" drives get a price drop.)

What is the new MSRP on a 1U loaded with 3TB drives? - since the old 1U was $9,995 I am guessing the new 1U with 3TB will come in at $11,595 MSRP +$1200 surcharge to get it up to about $12,800?
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The 2TB's had already been reduced last year from $1,245 down to the current $995. Not sure if they thought larger drives were "close," but many of us habitual speculaters thought that was a signal. Maybe it was, and things got pushed back, maybe it wasn't. Point is, I wouldn't expect a further decrease in 2TB's at this point, but who knows......


Jim
 
There really isn't much point discounting them further. Given the server costs, the most cost effective drive for the majority of users is the largest one available.
 
Yup, I agree, which is why I'll probably sell my current 3U system and buy another full of 3TB's.:D


Jim
 
On a separate, but related matter.....

For anyone considering the disk upgrade promotion and planning to move up to 2TB's, you should get with your dealer to get the order in before January 13th to avoid the $200 per disk surcharge on 2TB's going in affect on the 13th. Just a thought.


Jim
 
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