thrillcat
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I 100% agree and have also made this request with a member of the Kaleidescape team.
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threatdisplay
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I have a Lumagen Radiance Pro that does all the processing, aspect-ratio detection and DTM, and it is instantaneous. For the screen I have a Seymour Proscenium and I use a little remote.
So to be sure I'm understanding, you're zooming your projector to fit the width of the 2.40 screen, so basically cropping off the top and bottom of the image. For 2.40 content, it's just displayed letterboxed. For the GUI of the PLEX, it's essentially displayed scaled down (by the Lumagen) so that the 16:9 height of the Plex GUI fits the height of the 2.40 letterbox. If you were to look at the output frame of the projector, you'd see black bars on all four sides of the GUI.
Correct?
Correct?
threatdisplay
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Yes, pretty much the standard CIH setup with a scope screen but the video processor does the zooming instead of a physical lens adjustment.
thrillcat
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The more I think. About this, I also recently added a Lumagen. Wouldn’t setting the Kaleidescape to 16x9 screen give us essentially the exact same thing, using Lumagen’s auto-aspect?
threatdisplay
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Yes it would, but at the cost of native resolution.
EDIT: I’ve been thinking of trying it out and seeing if I can notice the resolution difference.
Okay, so if that's what you're doing, then just turn off CinemaScape on your Kaleidescape player. The onscreen display will be 16:9, which the Lumagen will have to scale down. 2.40 content will be letterboxed so it should fit your screen without adjustmnet. Any other aspect ratios will need to be scaled down appropriately by the Lumagen.
threatdisplay
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Yeah I just tried it and that does work.
You mentioned using a remote for your screen. Assuming that the Lumagen is doing auto-aspect, it should be possible for it to output aspect ratio information for your screen to auto-adjust. You can of course get aspect ratio triggers from the Kaleidescape player, but if you do it through the Lumagen it would work for other sources.
threatdisplay
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Yes, I’m a bit wary of it for now because the Lumagen’s method for aspect detection is image based so depending on the film it sometimes senses a lot of false aspect ratio changes and I don’t want it engaging the motor. Kaleidescape’s method is much more reliable because it’s based on metadata. For now I enjoy playing projectionist, but in the future I am interested in integrating lighting and screen motor control via the kscape.
Thanks for chiming in, it got me to the menu display that gives the most impact to people visiting!
threatdisplay
Member
so actually this works perfectly! I was worried about losing resolution but in the player settings, under Select Video Output Behavior, if you have Mode Selection Behavior set to Allow Display Mode Changes (use external scaler), this ignores your OSD video preferences and always will output the movie you play in its native resolution. I‘m super happy now!
We often implement that in way that we let the videoprocessor detect the AR and then have the user push a button to let the mask move to that AR. Then the AR will be fixed and doesn´t move even if the content AR changes. Indeed, you don´t want to have your mask moving during a movie...
Ability to change the player Audio capabilities through automation. Example I have a player connected to a video matrix and have Control4. On the matrix I have some set ups that have surround sound and some that just use the TV speakers. When it comes to movies with DTS I have change the player to do the decoding on TVs without surround and back to pass through on TVs with receivers.
Was annoying enough that I bought an extra Strato C, but would have been nice if this setting was exposed in the Control4 driver. Or some place other than the Settings that are only available through the IP page.
And I’m still hating that there is no auto collection feature. I tend to create collections like Mission Impossible and place them all in there. Or 4K Movies and place them all in there. Maintaining this manually is kind of a pain. I know systems like Plex can do this with pretty good accuracy. I also noticed recently when I had to download some of my movies again after adding a second Terra, the movies that I had to redownload I had to create their collections all over again.
Was annoying enough that I bought an extra Strato C, but would have been nice if this setting was exposed in the Control4 driver. Or some place other than the Settings that are only available through the IP page.
And I’m still hating that there is no auto collection feature. I tend to create collections like Mission Impossible and place them all in there. Or 4K Movies and place them all in there. Maintaining this manually is kind of a pain. I know systems like Plex can do this with pretty good accuracy. I also noticed recently when I had to download some of my movies again after adding a second Terra, the movies that I had to redownload I had to create their collections all over again.
That is something your matrix should/could do, not the source.
Yeah come to think of it I have multiple NVIDIA Shields on the same video matrix that are setup for audio passthru on the shield itself that I don’t have this issue with. Seems to only be an issue with my Strato C source devices.
with Netflix no longer renting DVD's, and BestBuy ending its sale of DVD's, i think there will be a opening market for a lower priced K system. Thinking bringing back the Strato S, still with the older download speed but a price point that doesn't price out most people. Get them hooked on the system and then upsell them to the faster downloads of the Primes.
A second thought is with the Download speeds of the Prime systems, it would really be nice now to have the system show all your owned movies, just grey out ones that are not downloaded. Make it much easier to find a movie to watch and not forget you own a movie.
A second thought is with the Download speeds of the Prime systems, it would really be nice now to have the system show all your owned movies, just grey out ones that are not downloaded. Make it much easier to find a movie to watch and not forget you own a movie.
When you are downloading to a terra drive and you have more than one, can you select what server it loads on?
I am looking at getting an older larger Terra, for movies that I won't be shuffling out, my Favorites so the slow download speed doesn't matter, and a second smaller Prime server for the movies I can't keep loaded and will only occasionally watch, so the faster download speed will be useful.
I am looking at getting an older larger Terra, for movies that I won't be shuffling out, my Favorites so the slow download speed doesn't matter, and a second smaller Prime server for the movies I can't keep loaded and will only occasionally watch, so the faster download speed will be useful.
SimonSays
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I was just thinking about that. I got a Strato S about a week ago, and having a "storage manager" function would be great. Download stuff through the fastest system, but have an interface where you can move things around on all devices in your system on your local network. Move favorite movies to "slower" storage, and be able to optimize filling up each device. Right now the only way to decide where to download a movie, is to shut down every device but that one, and then initiate the download.
So Kaleidescape team: Please, pretty please, can we get a storage manager option?
