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NEWS: New 246TB SSD Server Announced

Calm-One said:
Articles are starting to get published.

This one talks about a single ssd model being available as well.

It also tries to guess the SSDs being used - Solidigm D5-P5336 NVMe SSD using 3D QLC NAND.

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Calm-One, Thanks for the link. I really had no idea that it would cost that much, that being said it will definitely be out of my price range. I currently have a 8, 24, and 30tb for storage in my system. And since adding the Strato K into my system it is eating up my storage quickly. Maybe adding a 120tb in the future may be the right answer 😂
 
HiFiHippie said:
Calm-One, Thanks for the link. I really had no idea that it would cost that much, that being said it will definitely be out of my price range. I currently have a 8, 24, and 30tb for storage in my system. And since adding the Strato K into my system it is eating up my storage quickly. Maybe adding a 120tb in the future may be the right answer 😂
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Like others including myself have asked for: a Kscape Terra server where the HDDs or SSDs can not only be replaced due to errors or outright failure, but for greater capacity as disk and memory technologies develop.

We had that option with the Premier line. Worked pretty well imho.

The 2RU Terra server just needs Kscape management to want to sell it with replaceable Kscape sold HDDs and SSDs.
 
I just need a dual 15T model which will set me back only $10-20 thousands, according to the AI, not counting K's markup...
  • 15.36TB Model Price: Retail prices for the 15.36TB variant typically range from $5,000 to $9,500 depending on the retailer and condition (new vs. refurbished). For example, NewEgg lists the 15.36TB model (SBFPF2BV153T001) around $5,054, while other retailers like ServerSupply and CDW quote prices between $8,300 and $9,500.
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Darn those AI companies to perdition and rack and ruin.
 
Datacenters are not new, they've been around and needed for quite awhile. They have always been in the background supporting the services, Apps, streaming, and cloud storage, etc. that wouldn't exist without them. The recent proliferation of these centers is obviously being driven by AI, but also because the traditional uses for datacenters is also growing as this digital world that surrounds us continues to expand.

There is a confirmed effort by at least one country to undermine the expansion of US datacenters by funding some demonstrations, and the media focusing on the handful of problems that have been created by poor planning of a few centers. I think there are about half a dozen legit complaints about some recently constructed centers, and the focus on water and power issues. Not sure how many people realize that there are already over 4000 centers operating in the US, and most have been there for many years. Although some very small versions can be traced to the 1970's and 1980's (earlier for government purposes), it was the 1990's that saw large centers being built, and very large centers over the past 20 years.

I'm not investing in the opportunity made available to me, but my decision has nothing to do with any of the external arguments against datacenters. I think they are necessary, and I support building them, BUT I also want it done responsibly, in a way that doesn't have a negative impact on the surrounding communities and residents. If we don't build them here (US), they will be built elsewhere, and those countries will reap the benefits, and control access.

Jim
 
cinelife said:
Datacenters are not new, they've been around and needed for quite awhile.
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Yes, but they where mostly for number crunching, external server hosting and cloud storage and demand & supply was in balance.
The current massive demand for storage, RAM and GPUs is clearly driven by AI.
 
DieZwei said:
Yes, but they where mostly for number crunching, external server hosting and cloud storage and demand & supply was in balance.
The current massive demand for storage, RAM and GPUs is clearly driven by AI.
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Agreed, I was just pointing out that Datacenters are not new, and are needed if we are to take full advantage of AI's capabilities. I understand the concerns about AI, and we must have appropriate safeguards regarding its use, but it will be a big part of our lives whether we support it or not, it already is, and there are many positive uses that cannot be ignored. As one example, one of my neighbors is a Neurosurgeon, and researcher, and acknowledged having access to data, both historical and current, that changed the way he looked at some cases. The data has been "out there" for many years, but has only now been made available because of AI. I'm sure there are many examples like this, and these datacenters will be needed to expand these benefits.

I'm not at all ignoring the increased costs we are all experiencing for storage because of these centers, I don't like it either, but that won't change in the short term. There is no "supply and demand" balance as you noted because these competing AI companies are demanding storage faster than it can be made available.

Jim
 
Still no word on the cost? I thought you could order via dealers, shouldn't they know by now?
 
Steve Bruzonsky said:
Are the exhibitors and attendance at CEDIA down from past years - what was your impression? I last attended in Denver 2019.
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I only have 2025 and 2026 as comparisons; both in Denver. The first two days were pretty crowded attendance-wise, with the third day attendance was less than half. That made it a lot easier to talk to the exhibitors. I definitely needed a little over 2 days to see all that I wanted to see. In 2027 it will move locations to Las Vegas, so I wonder if that will lead to greater attendance.
 
lujan said:
Still no word on the cost? I thought you could order via dealers, shouldn't they know by now?
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The answer is still the same....the price will be determined at the time a dealer inquires about placing an Order. K can prepare the chassis, but the SSD drives are purchased as needed to fill orders, and those prices are subject to the market at the time the order is being placed.

Given the pricing of the Terra 123TB SSD servers that were available for awhile last year, these new custom order 246TB servers are expected to be over $200K.

Jim
 
york said:
I only have 2025 and 2026 as comparisons; both in Denver. The first two days were pretty crowded attendance-wise, with the third day attendance was less than half. That made it a lot easier to talk to the exhibitors. I definitely needed a little over 2 days to see all that I wanted to see. In 2027 it will move locations to Las Vegas, so I wonder if that will lead to greater attendance.
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Sounds like a great show, I wish I had the opportunity to go to CEDIA, I don’t think it’s open to the public?
 
HiFiHippie said:
Sounds like a great show, I wish I had the opportunity to go to CEDIA, I don’t think it’s open to the public?
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It was good to go once but don't think I'll be going again. I didn't get there until the third day (Wednesday) and it still seemed crowded to me. I am really only a member of the public since I'm not a dealer or integrator, etc. I was there by accident because I was invited by one of the vendors. They did have trouble signing me in and took a bit of time. I didn't know until getting there that the public wasn't allowed. :)
 
HiFiHippie said:
Sounds like a great show, I wish I had the opportunity to go to CEDIA, I don’t think it’s open to the public?
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The event is free for current CEDIA members, but I believe anyone can pay for the Expo pass. Also about one month before the event, several major exhibitors send a code to their newsletter subscribers allowing anyone (even non-CEDIA members) to register for the expo portion for free (Trinnov, Procella, AVPro all sent free pass registration codes). I've seen discount codes this way for couple years in a row. Here's the schedule for the next tree CEDIA events:
  • 2027: Las Vegas, NV | September 8–10
  • 2028: Orlando, FL | September 26–28
  • 2029: Las Vegas, NV | September 5–7
 
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