mariyoshikong
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I will go back and check this one for DNR. The rest of my comments still stand, no grain on the train shot or red push so something is different.
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[Buyer’s Guide] Kaleidescape Quality Compared to Blu-ray & other Digital Sources
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mariyoshikong
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Ok, the shot with the axe guy still looks blurry and the black dots on the roof are gone. I do not see the fake grain or red push though. I tested on my LG C1 (no scaler) as well and the results look the same.
mariyoshikong
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I had the wrong part, they are there.
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Sorry, I am not very good at this. Black dots are actually in the Kaleidescape version as well.
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Then the movie must have been updated, and I can’t confirm since it was a rental, there’s no way I’m wasting money on it again. My screencaps of that shot are 100% not caused by the player. If they were, as I said, all my other comparisons would look that bad. Not to mention The Kingsman example, which showed no DNR before, then heavy DNR after the new update.
This is why I want them to add something in the movie info page that will tell us when a movie was last updated... They need to be a lot more transparent about their movie update.
Weapons 2025:
As i said, I'll believe it when I see it but this is why I'm very skeptical about that Mike update blaming most of the grain loss and quality issues on the player. This encode looks very denoised (or poorly encoded) compared to the bluray, and yet the Conjuring 4 2025 screenshots using the same player, same settings, is not denoised at all and is properly compressed... Also, I hate having to do this but in a PM, Mike admitted they were doing DNR sometimes..
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The.Pickup.2025:
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As i said, I'll believe it when I see it but this is why I'm very skeptical about that Mike update blaming most of the grain loss and quality issues on the player. This encode looks very denoised (or poorly encoded) compared to the bluray, and yet the Conjuring 4 2025 screenshots using the same player, same settings, is not denoised at all and is properly compressed... Also, I hate having to do this but in a PM, Mike admitted they were doing DNR sometimes..
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The.Pickup.2025:
VIDEO:
Weapons 2025:
As i said, I'll believe it when I see it but this is why I'm very skeptical about that Mike update blaming most of the grain loss and quality issues on the player. This encode looks very denoised (or poorly encoded) compared to the bluray, and yet the Conjuring 4 2025 screenshots using the same player, same settings, is not denoised at all and is properly compressed... Also, I hate having to do this but in a PM, Mike admitted they were doing DNR sometimes..
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The.Pickup.2025:
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It does make sense that “artifacts” would show up if the upscaler is on etc. DNR… maybe, maybe something triggers the player to apply it, kinda doubt it… but It’s sad that this is where we are and it could be months before fixed. I’m dumbfounded by how encoding these files seems so challenging, this is why I’m leaning toward the player being more of an issue. Getting an update out to simply fix cropping has taken how long now? Let us hope the strato V issues with its chip etc can even all be worked out… the potential for “reference picture and sound” are there… but we ain’t getting it!
mariyoshikong
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Base on what I was seeing my bet is on an update. It looked much closer to the disc version than the screen captures you had. I doubt the player introduced that many issues.
Kabillyhop
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I just got a Dead Reckoning update. Downloading now.
Don’t see anything on mine?
HiFiHippie
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Do we know what the update is for?
It resolves the color shift issue caused by faulty colorspace metadata, and also includes corrected HDR metadata.
MarvinTheAndroid
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Not trying to be funny but the all changelog needs to say is just that rather than something vague like 'improvements'. To suggest that the average user would be bamboozled by this is in my opinion a diversionary tactic.
This being said even if as an average user I don't understand something it usually is either important enough for me to go away and educate myself about the subject or unimportant enough for me to shrug my shoulders and move on with my life. I suggest that these two responses are typical of the average user and none of them are raging that they don't understand something and shouldn't have to educate themselves in order to be able to do so.
Sorry to say but I remain unconvinced by previous answers regarding the vague change logs which are usually so vague as to be pointless. You might as well just say 'This has changed' and nobody would know any more or less then they do now.