Very curious how the upgrade is going to look
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Same here, I wasn’t too impressed with the disc. I don’t have the older K version, so I will definitely pick this up.Very curious how the upgrade is going to look
KCWolfPck
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What’s in the box?Se7en just got updated to cinematic
Seven
Two homicide detectives hunt a serial killer who bases his murders on the seven deadly sins. Thriller, Crime, Drama. Directed by David Fincher. Starring Brad Pitt, Morgan Freeman, Gwyneth Paltrow, and John C. McGinley. Purchase and download today in 4K Cinematic Dolby Vision.www.kaleidescape.com
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I’m guessing Jack.
But on a serious note, I don’t quite understand what you’re alluding to.
Not to ruin it, it’s a scene at the end of the movieI’m guessing Jack.
But on a serious note, I don’t quite understand what you’re alluding to.
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FYI, the shout factory 4k disc for The Holdovers contains the following audio options:
English: DTS-HD Master Audio 3.0 (48kHz, 24-bit)
English: DTS-HD Master Audio 2.0 Mono (48kHz, 24-bit)
K comes with a 5.1 track. K has the superior audio.
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I just watched the first hour of The Revenant. OMG this is amazing looking, I couldn’t see any banding on my Oled G6 that was present on the previous version. HDR highlights give it a brighter detail and the image is crystal clear. I’m shocked at the difference the 4k Cinematic hdr made, the DTS 5.1 sounded very good. I give it top marks in the audio and video department. Highly recommended!!!!!
JonProphet
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I can honestly say the HDR version visually is fantastic. Best I've seen it ever including back in the 90's at the $1 movies......
JonProphet
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Did they finally do it? Where's the guy we had a daily counter going for?
deyorew
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They upgraded Seven to cinematic, but then they took away the 4K Dolby Vision download? That stinks. Hope it’s coming back.
Looks like Napoleon got upgraded to 4k Cinematic
erixon1138
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Thor: Ragnarok (2017) Standard HDR version updated
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The Revenant (2015) Standard HDR version updated
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Aladdin (1992) Standard HDR version updated
www.kaleidescape.com
Inside Out 2 (2024) Cinematic HDR version updated
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Seven (1995) Standard HDR version updated
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- Additional audio tracks (English (DTS-HD Master Audio 7.1), English (PCM Stereo)
Thor: Ragnarok
When his long-lost sister sends him off to a remote planet, Thor fights to get back home aided by some unexpected allies. Fantasy, Action, Adventure, Epic. Purchase and download today in 4K Cinematic Dolby Vision with Dolby Atmos audio.
www.kaleidescape.com
The Revenant (2015) Standard HDR version updated
- Added extras (In HD as separate download)
- Audio and video improvements
The Revenant
An expert frontiersman betrayed and left for dead by a bitter fur trapper navigates his way back to the outpost to seek revenge. Directed by Alejandro González Iñárritu. Starring Leonardo DiCaprio, Tom Hardy, Domhnall Gleeson, and Will Poulter. Purchase and download today in 4K Cinematic HDR10.
www.kaleidescape.com
Aladdin (1992) Standard HDR version updated
- Audio and video improvements
Aladdin
A penniless thief with a fast-talking, wish-granting genie fends off a powerful sorcerer to win the heart of a princess. Starring Scott Weinger, Robin Williams, Linda Larkin, and John Freeman. Purchase and download today in 4K Cinematic Dolby Vision with Dolby Atmos audio.
www.kaleidescape.com
Inside Out 2 (2024) Cinematic HDR version updated
- Audio and video improvements
Inside Out 2
When Riley enters her teenage years, Joy faces Anxiety and other complicated new emotions influencing Riley's decisions. Directed by Kelsey Mann. Starring Amy Poehler, Maya Hawke, Phyllis Smith, and Lewis Black. Purchase and download today in 4K Cinematic Dolby Vision with Dolby Atmos audio.
www.kaleidescape.com
Seven (1995) Standard HDR version updated
- Audio and video improvements
Seven
Two homicide detectives hunt a serial killer who bases his murders on the seven deadly sins. Thriller, Crime, Drama. Directed by David Fincher. Starring Brad Pitt, Morgan Freeman, Gwyneth Paltrow, and John C. McGinley. Purchase and download today in 4K Cinematic Dolby Vision.
www.kaleidescape.com
Adamator
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I noticed standard Dolby Vision was missing initially as well. Glad it’s back.
Not necessarily. The original mix for this title is 3.0. So Kaleidescape likely ran it through their typical process which would have just left empty surround and lfe channels. And this quite likely also happens in the other directions with discs encoding and reporting empty channels as well.
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Very interesting. However the link indicates a 3.0 Dolby Digital mix (most likely lossy). The 3.0 mix on the disc is dts-Hd MA
Fwiw, there is a UK release with a 5.1 track, unlike the US release.
The Holdovers 4K Blu-ray (4K Ultra HD + Blu-ray) (United Kingdom)
The Holdovers 4K Blu-ray Release Date April 22, 2024. Blu-ray reviews, news, specs, ratings, screenshots. Cheap Blu-ray movies and deals.
IMDB lists the theatrical tech specs, not home release. This was a Dolby 3.0 mix for theaters.Very interesting. However the link indicates a 3.0 Dolby Digital mix (most likely lossy). The 3.0 mix on the disc is dts-Hd MA
Fwiw, there is a UK release with a 5.1 track, unlike the US release.
The Holdovers 4K Blu-ray (4K Ultra HD + Blu-ray) (United Kingdom)
The Holdovers 4K Blu-ray Release Date April 22, 2024. Blu-ray reviews, news, specs, ratings, screenshots. Cheap Blu-ray movies and deals.www.blu-ray.com
LVD
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What video and audio improvements can I expect with this new update over the previous version? Just wondering if the improvements are 'rewatch worthy'
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So the mezzanine file received by K included the original theatrical Dolby 3.0 audio asset and K (like you mentioned earlier) ran it through their typical process and converted it to 5.1?
Sorry for prolonging this, but I’m genuinely confused. I always thought that there was a separate audio mix (disc/digital) specifically created for home release.
There is generally a separate mix process for home release, but unless it's been a restoration many years later, I don't see any reason to think they would add surround for home on an initial release. Something like this without surround and without a lot of dynamics in the mix may have bypassed the separate home mix, but I have no evidence to back that up.
"Converted it to 5.1" is not how I would put it. Taking the surround sound stems and putting them into the process is technically a conversion, but it doesn't change channel alignment. If you cut off one of your fingers and put on a glove, you'll just have an empty finger hole in the glove. If you put a 3.0 folder into a preset for 5.1, it will come out with 3.0 audio in a 5.1 container, and silent channels. The "conversion" process is not doing any alteration to the mix or the channel alignment, it's just creating a DTS file instead of (likely) individual .wav files for each channel.
The studio also could've exported a set of 5.1 .wav files that only had audio on the 3 front channels.
I'm just saying that there's not likely a 5.1 mix, though I could be entirely wrong. Maybe they originally were going to do a 5.1 mix for theatrical and then decided to drop to 3.0. Maybe they really did take the 3.0 mix and create a 5.1 mix with an upmixer. I don't know what happened. But IMDB indicating it was a 3.0 theatrical mix tells me it's more likely that the mix was always intended to be 3.0 and either the Kaleidescape mix is 3.0 in a 5.1 container or they did some sort of automated 5.1 mix at the studio level (Kaleidescape is contractually prohibited from altering the actual mix), but even that is unlikely or they would have put that on the disc as well.