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Stretch 4:3 shows to 16:9 screens

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I didn't originally think this was possible... and yes, I know many people cringe at stretching 4:3 movies, but for kids TV shows on DVD, my kids don't care and I'd rather burn in my plasma screen evenly (since Kaleidescape doesn't offer gray sidebars).

This can be done by going to the installer page, then the components tab, then the link for the player you want to change.

On step 4, for "NTSC 4:3 full screen DVD" - select "480p (4:3 full screen)". Make sure you've checked that option as a valid output type in Step 2 as well.

Voila - 4:3 shows will now stretch to full screen.

I only wish they also had "720p 4:3 full screen" so my plasma doesn't have to switch resolutions, which shows a bunch of garbage on the screen for a few seconds while it switches over.
 
josh said:
I didn't originally think this was possible... and yes, I know many people cringe at stretching 4:3 movies, but for kids TV shows on DVD, my kids don't care and I'd rather burn in my plasma screen evenly (since Kaleidescape doesn't offer gray sidebars).
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Personally I don't cringe at the stretch, I just find that this option doesn't always work. Of the 4:3 movies in my library, I'd say about 25% don't stretch. When it works, it does a good enough job that I leave the option on.
 
regwood said:
Personally I don't cringe at the stretch, I just find that this option doesn't always work. Of the 4:3 movies in my library, I'd say about 25% don't stretch. When it works, it does a good enough job that I leave the option on.
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Are you sure you're not talking about the option that has a checkmark for how to handle letterboxed 4:3 content (I think that's in Step 5)? I originally thought that was how to stretch 4:3 movies, but then found after reading carefully, that that checkmark only determined what to do with letterboxed 4:3 content with blackbars actually IN the video signal (which I think is pretty rare).

That option rarely works for me too... (my copy of Hair is one of those letterboxed 4:3 movies with video-encoded black bars and it doesn't stretch to fullscreen no matter what the state of that checkmark)
 
I'll have to check when I get home. I'm doing 480i over HDMI, but that shouldn't matter. I just can't remember if the only option was 480p for the stretch.
 
I've mentioned to K before that the settings screen for players in the installer section of the Web UI could use some serious re-wording. It seems like every time I go back to it I have to think hard to remember what means what. To say the least it's a little confusing and I've sometimes found results opposite from what I expected when I make changes.

I think, ideally, K is expecting that you make prefernce settings based upon your display's capabilities. Then, based on the source material, your control system sends signals to the scaler or display to change the stretch mode if necessary. Of course, on FP systems with masking screens, this source format info is extremely helpful in automatically changing the screen's aspect ratio for each title.

If you have a a player connected to a standard TV, you may not have a control system in use. That's where things aren't as clean. I've added 2 stretch mode adjustments (one for 4x3 material and one for widescreen) in the K page of my remote. So, if I start watching something on my plasma that is in 4x3 and need to change the plasma's stretch mode, the button for doing so is right there to do so.

Jeff
 
josh said:
Are you sure you're not talking about the option that has a checkmark for how to handle letterboxed 4:3 content (I think that's in Step 5)? I originally thought that was how to stretch 4:3 movies, but then found after reading carefully, that that checkmark only determined what to do with letterboxed 4:3 content with blackbars actually IN the video signal (which I think is pretty rare).

That option rarely works for me too... (my copy of Hair is one of those letterboxed 4:3 movies with video-encoded black bars and it doesn't stretch to fullscreen no matter what the state of that checkmark)
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I went back and checked my settings and they're correct. Just for ha ha's I started a few 4:3 movies and the results were the same. Some simply don't stretch. It's probably a lack of information coming from the DVD.
 
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