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Sharing Strato/Alto between two rooms

House72

Well-known member
Hello All

I currently have a media room that houses JVC NX7 Projector, Lyngdorf MP60, Alto, Strato, Co Star and DV 700 and a Control 4 hub.

I am upgrading my living room set up and ordered 77 inch LG OLED TV and a Sennheiser Ambeo Soundbar and SVS Sub 2000 Pro with wireless link. I plan to tuck my Apple TV and Bluesound Node 2i using this solution from Sanus behind TV. https://www.bestbuy.com/site/sanus-streaming-media-panel-for-most-tvs-black/5463300.p?skuId=5463300

I originally thought of just getting a Strato C and also placing it behind the TV and only run Cat 6 or 7 cable from my equipment room. One straight disadvantage I have with this, I will use the ability to play movies on my DV 700. I also feel will have space run out behind the tv. My wife is clear about not having a media console below TV to house any equipment.

I was looking to see if I can have any kind of switch from HdFury that can help me share the system in the media room. We never intend to run movie at the media room and Living Room at the same time.

If I can share the system, please let me know what my options are.

Thanks again.

Cheers

Raj
 

sbutter

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Authorized Kaleidescape Dealer
Splitting the HDMI signal is the easy part. I would recommend a quality splitter like an Atlona that is rated for 4K HDR at 18gbs.

The hard part is getting a high quality image to the OLED TV. Personally I would stay away from HD-BaseT extenders over CAT6 cable for that great 77 inch OLED. The baluns all use some form of compression to get the signal to the TV, but can get a good picture at 9gbs on 4K HDR 24hz.

The best results would be using a fiber HDMI cable between the splitter and the OLED. I like Inneos over fiber because you can potentially upgrade the fiber to 8k in the future. I have used this cable with LG 77 GX OLED and it is the same performance as a short HDMI cable with no sync issues.

 

House72

Well-known member
Splitting the HDMI signal is the easy part. I would recommend a quality splitter like an Atlona that is rated for 4K HDR at 18gbs.

The hard part is getting a high quality image to the OLED TV. Personally I would stay away from HD-BaseT extenders over CAT6 cable for that great 77 inch OLED. The baluns all use some form of compression to get the signal to the TV, but can get a good picture at 9gbs on 4K HDR 24hz.

The best results would be using a fiber HDMI cable between the splitter and the OLED. I like Inneos over fiber because you can potentially upgrade the fiber to 8k in the future. I have used this cable with LG 77 GX OLED and it is the same performance as a short HDMI cable with no sync issues.

Thanks. Can you recommend any atlona? I am using rupiro fiber optic.
 

sbutter

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Before spending on the Atlona, you might try the Lyndorf Zone 2 HDMI. I have not used this PreAmp but might work until you get a splitter.

 

House72

Well-known member
Before spending on the Atlona, you might try the Lyndorf Zone 2 HDMI. I have not used this PreAmp but might work until you get a splitter.

I was not sure if output 2 carries both Audio and Video. I see with altona it can only do 4K for a 15 feet run. I may have to research if they have a model that will do longer run.
 

Transepoch

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I think the distance is usually more an issue of the cables than the switch itself (short of a pure optic/fiber setup.) Beyond that, you are hoping "visually lossless" over HDBaseT is more than marketing (although the OPUS claims to go up-to 18Gbps.)

As for recommendations, I had been considering the Atlona #AT-HDR-H2H-88MA (particularly for the integrated audio decoupling,) but went with the SIIG #CE-H23X11-S1. Definitely not as polished, but it has performed well since going into service over the summer. You may have different options depending on just how many in/outs you want to be able to run through it.
 

House72

Well-known member
Thanks again for the options and opinion on cables.

Currently All I need is one input from Co Star to this unit and two outputs (one to Lyngdorf and second to Ambeo Soundbar).

In future I may add one more output to my master bedroom where the current Samsung 4K may be replaced with UST projector or another OLED. So all in all just need 1 input and 3 outputs at the most.

Cheers

Raj
 

sbutter

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Authorized Kaleidescape Dealer
I was not sure if output 2 carries both Audio and Video. I see with altona it can only do 4K for a 15 feet run. I may have to research if they have a model that will do longer run.
I would not worry about the 15 feet rating. It is for traditional copper and not fiber hdmi. Recommend testing the fiber cable between rooms before putting it in the wall.

Atlona has a 1x4 too.
 

House72

Well-known member
I would not worry about the 15 feet rating. It is for traditional copper and not fiber hdmi. Recommend testing the fiber cable between rooms before putting it in the wall.

Atlona has a 1x4 too.
Thank you. I already placed order for 1X4. Thanks again. I will report back after 10th when everything will be installed.
 

markrubin

Member
I am using an Atlona AT-HDR-H2H-44MA from a Strato to 4k HDR displays and fiber cables up to 20 feet and I have to limit the Strato bandwidth to 13.5 Gbps otherwise the video is unstable: if I connect the Strato direct to the main display, it is stable at 18 Gbps setting
so I would be interested to learn of results with the RON unit, which was released in 2017
 

House72

Well-known member
I am using an Atlona AT-HDR-H2H-44MA from a Strato to 4k HDR displays and fiber cables up to 20 feet and I have to limit the Strato bandwidth to 13.5 Gbps otherwise the video is unstable: if I connect the Strato direct to the main display, it is stable at 18 Gbps setting
so I would be interested to learn of results with the RON unit, which was released in 2017
I got a response from Atlona support saying that as long as we use fiber it should be good even for 100 feet. I will post next week after trying it.
 

House72

Well-known member
Hello All

I tested RON 444 and its working well. I tested it before we fish wires next Saturday through the wall and finish installation. I do have one issue. When I turn the system in the living room it automatically turns on my Lyngdorf MP 60 and JVC NX7 projector as well in the media room. Is there anything I can do in the settings of RON 444 to disable that or is it something to be handled from JVC side.

Cheers

Raj
 

House72

Well-known member
Sounds like CEC (HDMI) control.
I still have this issue. When ever i start K activity in my living room JVC projector in my Media Room Turns on. In the media room I checked Lyngdorf and CEC is turned off there.

On my JVC NX-7 projector there is no CEC setting at all. I am at loss for words. I would appreciate if any one has any feedback.

Cheers
 

sbutter

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I still have this issue. When ever i start K activity in my living room JVC projector in my Media Room Turns on. In the media room I checked Lyngdorf and CEC is turned off there.

On my JVC NX-7 projector there is no CEC setting at all. I am at loss for words. I would appreciate if any one has any feedback.

Cheers
You mention a Control4 hub in your first post. My guess is that your Control4 is programmed to turn on the Media Room when the Strato starts to play or turned on. Check your Control4 programming for the Strato.
 
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