I know this sounds a bit lame - but I don't know. Everything is installed and configured for us in the cinema room. Very unusual for me with tech stuff but TBH over the years I have grown to hate the fiddling about with the tech tweaks and just want to watch more movies with somebody else worrying about that. There are obviously lip-sync settings that have been configured. I will take a look and see what I can find. Pretty sure the MADVR has lipsync.
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Lip Sync Test Disc in the Store
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Yes I have this version. These are the options I have to do every time a watch a movie:
-Click the auto OFF
-click it on and leave at “0”
-click it on and choose +1
Click it on and choose -1
It’s never the same and one of these 4 fixes it. It obviously is the MadVR mixed with KScape.
steelman1991
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What does the Trinnov report as the latency expected by the source device - pic if possible. Could it be that madVR does not report anything, in other words does it support auto lip sync?
I don’t have a clue.
steelman1991
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See my reply at post 37 - Lip Sync Test Disc in the Store
From it you will see that the source in my set-up requires 198ms of delay. It may be that the device between the Trinnov and source (ie MadVR) doesn't suuport auto-sync. While that doesn't resolve your issue it would at least explain why you're having to manually adjust, but as a previous poster said 1ms of change (either + or -) isn't unlikely to be noticeable.
Go to the screen where you make the changes, take a screenshot and post here.
Yes I’m pretty sure it’s the Kscape/MadVR combo that causes this. No problems with steaming. A previous poster posted the Trinnov webUI (since I don’t have a pic at the moment of mine). As you see the +\- goes up by 1 but the “198” as seen in pic displays around 417/418 on mine. But I don’t really look at that number just the 1,0,-1 as that is what I manually adjust to fix it.
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steelman1991
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Yes that was me that posted that picture.
Haha sorry didn’t check. So yes just like yours but shows 418. But I just hit the +/- one to two times….or sometimes turn it off (uncheck the box) and it fixes it.
thrillcat
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It would make sense that the relatively gigantic audio stream coming from K vs streaming could theoretically be the cause of the sync issues. Has anyone reported issues with disc playback vs K? Would be more of an apples to apples comparison than streaming.
I think MadVR is the culprit or more K owners would be complaining. More specifically MadVR and K working together.
SeriousSloth
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I have zero issues with lip sync and madvr envy.
What processor are you using?
SeriousSloth
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A storm audio isp mk2. Are you guys all using trinnov’s?
Yes- the Trinnov, Kscape, MadVR combo might be a problem. But that’s just my experience.
steelman1991
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Trinnov and Kscape - no madVR and more importantly - no lip sync issues.
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Same here, Kaleidescape to a Lumagen RadPro 5348 to the Trinnov Altitude, and no lip sync issues. I do separate the audio and video out of the Lumagen, sending video direct to Projector (GTZ380), and audio out directly to Trinnov.
Jim
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Are you sending audio out of your Strato to the Trinnov or from your 5348? Any audio dropouts with your setup? I switched to sending audio out of the Strato to my Trinnov (vs my 5348), which helped a lot (I have an Alt32 with the 7 HDMI inputs). Also, what HDMI cables are you using? Thanks!
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I do what you're doing (Strato audio out to Trinnov). I use Ethereal cables in most of my setups, no issues at all (using a 15 meter MHX cable coupled with a HDM-GA1 accelerator on the projector end (MHX out of 5348 to the GA1 with a 1 meter MHX out of the GA1 to the projector).
Jim
I use a Lumagen 4446 and split video and audio but in my case the audio goes to a Datasat RS20i with no lip-sync issues. Cable to the projector is a Ruipro fibre 20m and the others are a mix. The RCA inputs on the Datasat are used for my Gyrodec and Linn DSM music sources so the Kaleidescape components are only using the HDMI connections on them.