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McintoshMike

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88D90330-2342-4735-AF9D-9B904F6AAF04.jpegEEE3ADFE-F359-4908-9653-1745A3A80371.pngI was just curious on the old strato 6tb hard drives. When I looked at the disk it’s a WD 6tb disk drive. They are easily available to purchase. Can you buy one and replace your hard drive if it should fail?
 
My understanding is that you can not use a drive like this. It needs to be loaded by K with their proprietary software before it will function in the system.
 
That's correct, you cannot use an over the counter drive in a Kaleidescape component, even if you found the exact same part number it will not work. Others have tried and wasted their money, unfortunately.

Jim
 
Well, you need the proper software to make these disks work. If I remember it right, most of the hard disks of these series have special encryption, so they didn't work at all without proper software.
 
Hello all, I just joined to research the ins and outs of K-world. I'm a relatively experienced PC builder/hobbiest and this thread just answerred one of my first questions. Hard drives retail = no way K proprietary = yes please $$$. I get the whole Raid thing(K-proprietary) I wonder if you could clone an existing set of K-drives onto larger HHD drives. I understand K has to initialize a new drive is that correct?
 
maximilienolen said:
Well, you need the proper software to make these disks work. If I remember it right, most of the hard disks of these series have special encryption, so they didn't work at all without proper software.
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That's why the prices for the used disks are so low, especially in times of the crypto hard drive mining possibility. I only can suggest you try to use any online hard disk recovery services like raid recovery service and try to recover the required software on disk. Have a great day!
 
What most folks don't know is that Kaleidescape was founded by geniuses in the storage business. They started with skill sets focused on storage and security of content. They didn't back into storage as a subset of the idea to make servers and players. They wanted to use their knowledge of storage and security of content to create products with the ability to store DVD collections in servers to create additional value to content ownership. Some folks have tried to break these protections over the years, with no success, including a person that hacked Apple security. Seriously, it's not worth the time, not to mention being a violation of Kaleidescape's Service and License Agreement to even make the attempt.

That said, I do understand those that have 5U servers wanting to find a solution to failed drives beyond just upgrading to newer equipment. If you have failed drives in a 5U, it's a door stop, the only option is to trade it in for a new Server. There are two options, one trade is to another Premiere server, and the other is to convert to digital (Terra/Strato). Finding a replacement drive for a 5U has been impossible lately (forget the one's on eBay, none of those have been reinitialized).

Jim
 
kpmp4ever said:
How do you find disc and load it on box?just picked up KServer 2500
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Do you own a player?
You will need both to have a functional system.
Have you tested the server to see if it functions correctly and if the hard drives are still viable?
 
flitebynite said:
Do you own a player?
You will need both to have a functional system.
Have you tested the server to see if it functions correctly and if the hard drives are still viable?
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Yes I have 2500 k server and m500 right now.it in,t has 1 TB drive want to put in 4 6tb drives
 
Your m700 is a player as well. so you have two players.
If you're only using it on a single room, and your rack has the space, I'd be using the m700 as the player since it can also load/import DVDs, CDs, and Blu-Rays. your m500 is only a player. Could even sell it if you only intend on having a single zone system.
 
I may be wrong because I've never owned a K2500, but the Kserver 2500 has unique hard drives that K no longer sells.
K still offers the K 1500 (1U) and 5000 (3U) drives, but they won't fit an old K 2500 (5U).
 
Andy is correct, there is no way to use 6TB drives in the 5U servers (K2000/K2500). The 1TB is the largest drive K offered for the 5U, and those are unavailable from K, or anyone that I'm aware of, including in the used marketplace.

Anyone buying a 5U these days needs to be aware that you will likely not have access to replacement drives should a drive fail (and they will fail at some point). I have at least a dozen clients that had 5U drives fail and they were unable to locate a replacement drives.

DO NOT buy single replacement drives for the 5U unless they have never been used in a Server (i.e. "new") (I haven't seen one of those in 10+ years), OR, the used replacement drive has been "reinitialized" by K. This reinintialization process was ONLY allowed on drives that were still under warranty, and the last 5U drive sold went out of warranty 7+ years ago.

Jim
 
josh said:
Your m700 is a player as well. so you have two players.
If you're only using it on a single room, and your rack has the space, I'd be using the m700 as the player since it can also load/import DVDs, CDs, and Blu-Rays. your m500 is only a player. Could even sell it if you only intend on having a single zone system.
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Players and vaults work differently, so you'll lose the ability to play without importing, catalog, and all-around the alternative option for trying to import discs that have issues in the M700 (either from a poorly authored copy, long duration, or just optical drive quirks.) Having two players also lets you go Costar without losing music playback. I wouldn't get rid of the M500 unless you were certain you'd be okay with all of that, even for a single zone.
 
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