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Lutron switch

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giri

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I have a casa switch and plan to replace it with Lutron as it works with Kscape. Could you please share what you had bought and that is working with Kscape. I think Lutron needs some hub as for as I remember. I am exploring what options with Lutron so that I can take better decision.

Appreciate it.
 
giri said:
I have a casa switch and plan to replace it with Lutron as it works with Kscape. Could you please share what you had bought and that is working with Kscape. I think Lutron needs some hub as for as I remember. I am exploring what options with Lutron so that I can take better decision.

Appreciate it.
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So kasa does not work with Kscape? I don’t have a C4 yet but going to be buying one soon and I just purchased kasa switch thinking I can get it to work with Kscape. (Since kasa had a driver for C4 available)


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jollyguy23 said:
So kasa does not work with Kscape? I don’t have a C4 yet but going to be buying one soon and I just purchased kasa switch thinking I can get it to work with Kscape. (Since kasa had a driver for C4 available)


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sorry. I did not try. I thought only Lutron works. I am trying to figure out steps on how I can try. Any link would help. I am also searching for it.
 
Sorry , my bad for assuming that you are using Control4.

For direct use with Kscape yes I think it is limited to a few options. I do not have much details.


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Kaleidescape will do some integration with Lutron Radio Ra 3 and HomeWorks, but for more advanced cool stuff, Control4 would be a great start. Let me know if you need more info
 
Appreciate replies. I want to evaluate control 4 also. Let me know if you can share what you are using and working well. I jus want to operate home theater equipment and lights in theater.
 
There are two ways to do lighting integration with Kaleidescape.
  1. Through a control system. This has been supported for many years. The Kaleidescape system sends event triggers to the control system when certain things happen, like playback start, pause, intermission, reaching the end credits, and returning to the onscreen display. Your control system programmer can attach any programming to these events that you want, including things like draperies, lighting, climate control systems, and the list goes on. We have broad support of many popular control systems including for example Control4, Savant, Crestron, and others. The control protocol is published for other control system developers to use if desired.
  2. Direct Lutron integration. Recently, we added a feature that supports direct integration with certain Lutron lighting systems, including RadioRA 3 and HomeWorks QSX. You can set up Lutron scenes for the events that interest you, and then associate those events with the Lutron scenes in your system's browser interface. We have an Integration Guide with details. Since Lutron supports both lighting and shades, you can incorporate both of those elements into your scenes, if desired.
 
When I call Lutron to buy the switch that is needed, they are pointing to installer. What do I need to buy to make it work as simple as possible . I hope as simple as buying single right switch as for as hardware point of view. Not sure what model switch or how to look
 
I believe that both of the Lutron product lines that are supported for direct integration with Kaleidescape are professional-installation products. I don't think they're available for sale to end customers directly. The least complex installation would be the RadioRA 3, which requires a RadioRA 3 processor and compatible dimmers, at a minimum. As far as I know, there is no option that is just a single dimmer switch.
 
MikeKobb said:
I believe that both of the Lutron product lines that are supported for direct integration with Kaleidescape are professional-installation products. I don't think they're available for sale to end customers directly. The least complex installation would be the RadioRA 3, which requires a RadioRA 3 processor and compatible dimmers, at a minimum. As far as I know, there is no option that is just a single dimmer switch.
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I would also love to see more non-custom install compatibility from Kaleidescape. With more and more non-CI channel K users every month, some of the coolest features are unavailable without spending thousands more.

Any chance of integrating some of the smarthome protocols like HomeKit into KOS, or do you have limiting agreements with existing partners?

I don’t want to spend thousands more on a control system or CI products when all I want to do is tie a single room of lighting to the play/pause/intermission feature.
 
I'm not aware of any limiting agreements, but there is a practical limit, which is that any work that we do along those lines has to be worked into the engineering schedule, go through QA, and then be maintained and (crucially) supported until roughly the end of time. That represents a significant investment into a space that continues to change rapidly, with companies and products entering and exiting the market, and new standards like Matter that are being promoted but that have not yet really achieved a critical mass. We have to be careful how we allocate finite resources, and choose opportunities that will be worth the investment.

Meanwhile, though, we have an extensive, publicly available control protocol that is documented and free to be used by anyone who wants to integrate with Kaleidescape products. There's nothing stopping anybody who is interested in doing so from building a Kaleidescape plugin for, say, Homebridge/HOOBS, IFTTT, Hubitat, or other similar solutions that are more targeted to the DIY market and that run either on inexpensive hardware or as a service on a NAS or similar device.
 
 
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giri said:
I am planning to order this just use like smart swtich for now. When I am ready for radio ra3 or whatever system, I am assuming it works.


If I buy this can I integrate

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I have that exact switch and bridge in our theater, and it's connected to HomeKit and the Harmony remote. Works great. But from my research, Caseta devices are in no way compatible to the Ra3 controllers. There's no upgrade path other than tearing it out and starting over.
 
thrillcat said:
I have that exact switch and bridge in our theater, and it's connected to HomeKit and the Harmony remote. Works great. But from my research, Caseta devices are in no way compatible to the Ra3 controllers. There's no upgrade path other than tearing it out and starting over.
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Thanks. With this combination, are you able to achieve when you pause movies with kscape lights to come and at the end of movie with actor names coming up, does it turn on automatically? But I have android phone and not sure apple needed.
 
giri said:
Thanks. With this combination, are you able to achieve when you pause movies with kscape lights to come and at the end of movie with actor names coming up, does it turn on automatically? But I have android phone and not sure apple needed.
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That will not work. You need either LutronRA3 or Homeworks. Minimum RA3 system to work would be the repeater and a switch. Plus you would need to program the system. Maybe find a dealer who would help you setup a small system and then expand later if desired. You can also achieve lighting control with some type of controller…
 
giri said:
Thanks. With this combination, are you able to achieve when you pause movies with kscape lights to come and at the end of movie with actor names coming up, does it turn on automatically? But I have android phone and not sure apple needed.
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No. I have programmed it into my Harmony remote so I can turn off/on lighting on the remote, but it does not take any cues from the Kaleidescape.
 
good to know. Does kscape integratoin work with RA2 select? I was told by Lutron that it is similar to RA system, but little lower end of it.

I am putting lights this week to point to screen. Thought of buying right swtich. It is not easy to buy one that will work in the future if I get RA2 SYSTEM.
 
giri said:
good to know. Does kscape integratoin work with RA2 select? I was told by Lutron that it is similar to RA system, but little lower end of it.

I am putting lights this week to point to screen. Thought of buying right swtich. It is not easy to buy one that will work in the future if I get RA2 SYSTEM.
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If you're speaking with Lutron and the representative doesn't know exactly what Kaleidescape is the moment you mention it, I'd recommend taking any advice with a grain of salt.

As @SJHT mentioned, it only works with RA3 or Homeworks. The Kaleidescape integration only works with Lutron products geared towards the custom installer/integrator market, so speaking with Lutron's consumer-grade customer support is not necessarily going to be trustworthy. Completely different training and services.
 
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