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Adding Terra Server? To Strato S, Alto & Disk Vault Question.
- Thread starter pickle28
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That's not correct. The Terra has a faster processor and a faster I/O architecture, which allows it to write to the hard drive with much higher performance. The Strato's set top box-class processor just can't write to the drive that quickly, especially when it needs to reserve some amount of processor to remain responsive in case the user interacts with the onscreen display or the browser interface.
We do not artificially limit download speed to differentiate products.
I didn’t mean artificially limiting was wrong. It was my guess. I am happy to be corrected.
I wrote the text below on another thread and copied it here. I believe it describes the cabling situation well. One thing I will add is that the ideal cable with the correct bandwidth and voltage drop will speed up the HDMI receiver's (display) ability to lock onto the signal.
Your logic is very sound. You do want the shortest length cable possible as it would pick up much less RF/EMI interference, accumulate less resistance, inductance and capacitance. This is true if the HDMI transmitter on the source device and the HDMI receiver on the display device have the same specifications. If the HDMI transmitter is over the specification, you can compensate this with longer cables.
As a consumer, my experience with different HDMI cables and lengths is limited. AV dealers and calibrators deal with these issues all the time. They would have a much stronger advice on which brand and length HDMI cable to use for each different source device. High quality cables can get very expensive and there might be a case in some applications for uber expensive cables. A trustworthy and honest dealer will make sure you don't buy cables any more expensive than you need to. Jim from Cinelife and Jim from Lumagen are extremely honest and trustworthy. If you don't already have a dealer, they can help you find the right cables.
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If it is white speckles all over the display, the HDMI cable doesn't have enough bandwidth, it's dropping too many data packages that error correction can not make up for. Most modern displays cut off the image completely when error correction can not encounter adequately. I have seen this on older TVs.
If you get drop outs which the image goes away and comes back in short time but repeats this occasionally, the HDMI cable has enough bandwidth but HDMI receiver on the display side can not equalize the voltage amplitude and/or the skew rate (timing on the rise and fall of the square wave) isn't ideal. Shorter cables generally cause this as the voltage drop is low and the signal amplitude arrives too high to the HDMI receiver end. You can double the length of the HDMI cable until the drop outs stop. This is more of an issue for 4K HDR signals with much high bandwidth. They have much faster rise and fall rates.
Both issues are due to manufacturers not following the specifications. My Sony displays don't like any HDMI cable longer than 2 meters. So I know Sony products like the voltage amplitude a bit on the hot side. Lumagen equipment on the other hand works best with 3 or 4 meters HDMI cables. Finding the correct synergy is a bit of science and a bit of art. Unfortunately, cables are very complicated in electronics. I work in electrical power generation, distribution and transmission. It is the same deal though now you are dealing with up to 250,000 Volts. Some cable manufacturers bank on this fact and try to sell you a 6 foot HDMI cable for $20k. I won't say that cable is not better than a $100 cable but diminishing returns apply.
As Jim (Cinelife) suggested, work with your dealer and try a few different length HDMI cables until you have one that works. If you want to handle the troubleshooting yourself, make sure you buy good quality, tested and certified HDMI cables. Also, make sure to buy from a retailer with a good return policy because you might need to try a few different length cables until settle on one.
Let us know how it turns out and feel free to ask questions here.
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Thanks for this information. It’s just a bit of a delay to get picture when I start a movie. Sound comes first all the time. I usually pause the movie when the sound starts and play it when the picture catches up. They are in sync just no picture when sound is on. I wouldn’t miss much but it’s definitely annoying. I’m upgrading my entire system so I will see what happens when that is done.
You can definitely add a Terra to your system to increase storage. That is the whole point of the Terra server… it will also increase download speeds from the Store upwards of 1Gbps (assuming your service supports this).
Andy
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Yes you can!
steelman1991
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@MikeKobb I followed your post some time ago about using 60fps, rather than 24fps and implementing "inverse telecine" on the PJ. I have terrible lip-synch issues which is only resolved really on some titles by playing at 60fps. My PJ is a JVC NZ8, but I cannot get stability using the cables I have. It will play perfectly for aroud 40 minutes and then drop the signal, reset the PJ and strart up again.
I have tried several different cables and lengths (all certified - either "Premium or UHD").
Long winded way to ask - what cables do you use lol. Or do you have any other tips to resolve - thanks.
I have tried several different cables and lengths (all certified - either "Premium or UHD").
Long winded way to ask - what cables do you use lol. Or do you have any other tips to resolve - thanks.
steelman1991
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Lol no problem Mike don’t put yourself out. I thought you might know off the top of your head. I managed to get a fiber optic cable, which so far has been very stable in combination with a UHD certified cable.
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Hi Substance,
I seem to be having more issues with my setup and I want to clarify a couple things. I'm still lagy on my Kscape setup but I'm upgrading to a Terra Server (on it's way) and Strato C (have). This will eliminate the extra step with co-star and should help a bit.
1) I tried watch a UHD disk on my PS5 last night and about every 20 seconds there would be a quick pause and resume. Sound kept going no problem. It was consistent and wouldn't go away. I ended up watch a different movie on Kaleidescape.
2) My wife and kids went to Blair Witch on Apple TV and after a few minutes the picture would leave. The movie was streaming from Netflix. We would pause the movie, picture would come back, go back to play a bit and it went to shit again. Sometimes immediately other times after 10 minutes. Didn't start until about 30 minutes in. Ended up watching a movie on the Strato.
Here’s a link to a video of the dropout on the appletv.
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Okay, now for my next question...
I have a bunch of movies on my Strato and Alto. My terra is arriving any day.
My plan is to delete all my movies of my library and just re-download them all on the terra.
It's going to take a very long time but it doesn't get much simpler then that does it?
I have a bunch of movies on my Strato and Alto. My terra is arriving any day.
My plan is to delete all my movies of my library and just re-download them all on the terra.
It's going to take a very long time but it doesn't get much simpler then that does it?
Two caveats to consider -- if you've created any favorite scenes in any of your movies, you will lose those if you delete them and download again. You'll also lose the makeup of any collections you've created on your system.
Taking a step back, I suppose there's a question to ask: why? Assuming that you're keeping the Strato and the Alto, why not just leave the movies where they are and use the Terra for new downloads? You won't lose any favorite scenes or collection membership. You'll just gain a bunch more space.
Taking a step back, I suppose there's a question to ask: why? Assuming that you're keeping the Strato and the Alto, why not just leave the movies where they are and use the Terra for new downloads? You won't lose any favorite scenes or collection membership. You'll just gain a bunch more space.
Thanks for the reply Mike.
I’m getting rid of the Strato and Alto and using a Terra and Strato C going forward.
The only collection I created is movies on my system that I haven’t seen and it’s a smal selection.
I haven’t got into favorite scenes or scripts yet (not sure if scripts are still a thing) but I definitely want to.
I audition my theater quite frequently and I always just end up going to an avengers movie. I need more options.
I’m getting rid of the Strato and Alto and using a Terra and Strato C going forward.
The only collection I created is movies on my system that I haven’t seen and it’s a smal selection.
I haven’t got into favorite scenes or scripts yet (not sure if scripts are still a thing) but I definitely want to.
I audition my theater quite frequently and I always just end up going to an avengers movie. I need more options.
It would be, but having just been through this myself, I can tell you that on a Gigabit Internet connection, doing a content restoration is likely faster. Replication goes through the same software path as disc import, and it is not as optimized for speed as current-generation Terra downloads are. If the Internet connection is slower, or you have data caps, then absolutely, replication would be the way to go.
pickle28, if you are going to go the re-download path, then what I'd suggest is that you set up your Terra initially as a separate, standalone system. When you do, during the activation process on the web, it will ask you if you want to populate the server with the same content as your other system. You can just say yes and it will download all the same content in all the same versions. If you're going to use the Strato and Alto at least temporarily with the new Terra, then you can wait for the Terra to finish downloading, then delete the content from your other components and then move them into the Terra's system.